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Ep 89. Software-Defined Warfare with Lt. Gen. Jack Shanahan and Stephen Rodriguez

In this compelling episode of "All Quiet on the Second Front," host Tyler Sweatt sits down with Lt. Gen. John N.T. “Jack” Shanahan and Stephen Rodriguez, key figures in the Atlantic Council's Software-Defined Warfare Commission.

Lt. Gen. Jack Shanahan, USAF (ret.), Former Director, Joint Artificial Intelligence Center
Stephen Rodriguez, Senior Advisor, Forward Defense, Scowcroft Center for Strategy & Security, Atlantic Council

03.24.2025 / 1 month ago

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In this compelling episode of “All Quiet on the Second Front,” host Tyler Sweatt sits down with Lt. Gen. John N.T. “Jack” Shanahan and Stephen Rodriguez, key figures in the Atlantic Council’s Software-Defined Warfare Commission. Jack Shanahan, celebrated for his 36-year tenure in the U.S. Air Force, delves into his pioneering work with Project Maven and his contributions to the digital transformation at the Department of Defense. Stephen Rodriguez, with a dynamic background spanning tech ventures and Pentagon advisory roles, offers a critical analysis of the evolving defense landscape. Together with Tyler, they explore the pressing need for innovation within the Department of Defense, discussing the integration of software agility with hardware reliability to achieve technological superiority. The episode unpacks the impact of Project Maven, lessons from their diverse experiences, and the strategic shifts towards software-centric warfare to ensure the military’s future readiness.

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